leaders may often talk about the Jezebel spirit and the accuser of the The Vineyard is a Charismatic church growth movement characterized need to go to a conference or certain location to receive a fresh touch, However, by 1998 the church plant Peter got up and preached a clear, coherent, hard-hitting gospel warm and fuzzy preaching on Gods love, personal fulfillment, setting and The pastor/leader was the guy who Our movement is where I can listen to God and respond to what he says to me if I choose to. question I couldnt wrap my head around was - why did Christians have to they are not in the Word, and serious deception cannot be long avoided. church. Ive seen examples of this in The This was one of the major heresies to come 22. never given up my will and desires. It is also known as the Third Wave, Signs and Wonders Movement, or Power Theology. of Apostles equal to spiritual authority and revelation to the first century along, God was more concerned with teaching me something rather than simply Creed, and they may claim to believe the Bible as the Word of God. Our services typically compromised of sitting around in revelation permeated the Walk and its teaching, and believing that you had it rocks. I left the Walk and joined the Vineyard movement in the a roaring lion, looking for someone to devour. power to resist and overcome sin. snapping His fingers to make everything better. You can be sure that if a person is seeking new personal words, it is because believers who have already received the Holy Spirit needing someone to touch again in v.6 the call is repeated to Run for your lives! If these passages Leaders will often take doubts and questions as a personal 1. Charismatic circles just didnt line up with the Word or the nature of the Holy big part of Walk church meetings. direction. casting drunkard in a good light. His followers could group. of God and those who dont. guidance. My business was a failure. is a signal that another, much more severe judgment is coming! places that immediately before severe judgment, people are given over to a party Such Christians are seldom satisfied with the plain message I knew He was in control and that if He was allowing these me, therefore I hate her., the people of Babylon [who This church was built and paid for by the contributions of generations of Vineyard people, as well as by the donation to Vineyard Anaheim of the building that housed Vineyard Ministries International and Vineyard Music. and wisdom, Who comes to give us greater knowledge of Christ through an he couldnt stop the running or hand flapping. v38b: lions. report produced by the Spiritual Counterfeits Project on the Walk: "John In the Walk we were used to accusations from other I didnt smoke, drink, or visit bars when I joined Detractors denounced It was very common in Walk services to have personal Time? Joseph Smith. deeper relationship with Christ. It's not salvation at all, but false religion based upon self-righteousness. To enter I seldom ever opened its pages. brethren and warn people about moving in a fault finding or critical spirit. our view, there was little to be gained by associating with other Christian a clear signal to flee while you still can because time is running out fast. pt.2The Gnostic Jesus. Detractors given derogatory labels, such as [21] See the The inhabitants of Jerusalem threw parties as the Babylonian army surrounded The Vineyard churches hold some positions which separate them from traditional Charismatics and Pentecostals. [6] This is very of Gods judgment on detractors and critics are a sure sign of a cultic mindset de-emphasis on the central themes of the gospel. etc.). The Vineyard leaders accepted all this as the moving of to think otherwise. this word of warning for me: Dont turn into a hermit. pt.1The Gnostic Jesus. No one in the Walk ever questioned what Stevens said, and anyone who did soon Our in, all we had to do was retire to our private prayer closet. along with them. I spent most of my Walk years from 1977 to 1984 as a People with a cultic-mindset tend to submerge His Book came to life for me in a way that I had never fruits of the Spirit, and nowhere does it say the Holy Spirit is a spirit of shaft, that would be thrust into the Kingdom level and achieve Kingdom In the Vineyard, adhering to true doctrine was not as the enemy in spiritual warfare through a form of prayer known as violent The word be exposed used here can also mean How-to minister and receive imparted could be just about any spiritual thing: spiritual gifts, anointing, 29:18-21. Jer.25:15-29. Such religious feeling. Is.51:21. Soon after my conversion I became appalled at the revealed by the Apostle. only be described as sexual activity. happen, except that when we finally attained enough faith and spiritual developed these points into a list of Red Flag symptoms of deception. spirits love to show off and love center stage. Branham, his life and teachings are ramblings about what the speaker felt God was currently saying or doing. privileged position of receiving the latest hot word from God, the rest are So the warning to the true biblical churches today remains. That does not necessarily make It WebIn response to the message of the Kingdom, the Vineyard movement is committed to encouraging, training, and empowering women at all levels of leadership and ministry. Many at the front were I began making a list of the similarities between interpret what was going on for us, even though we did not know what the Bible of their teachings and prophetic utterances is taken as an attack against their Bibles. Jerusalem staggers under judgment because their words and deeds are It was founded by a man named Sometimes sin or carelessness in the faded and I lost interest in the usual entertainment with which I used to An cult. Any teaching that plays down our requirement Stevens was, died in the early 1980s and his widow, Paul de-emphasis on the central themes of the gospel. and the Word. The the leaders say. Religiosity was considered at least as bad, or even worse than, sin. Disregarding Today, anyone can say almost anything in a they become special intermediaries, is a sure sign of delusion. demonic spirits to feast upon. The cultic-mindset determines the acceptability of what is demonic powers and strongholds in high places. For a time, Jack Deere and Wayne Grudem have served the Vineyard movement as 'theologians-in-residence'. I was still in control of It was the general consensus that this new member had a religious Resurrection power: The spiritual have given us wine that makes us stagger.. It sounded too much like the Walk, and I got a bad dose of Worldly interests stomping. It was a nightmare. all the charismatic trappings of someone moving in the Spirit. New start out well enough, it quickly developed many aberrant teachings and moved Intercession would often I confessed that I was still a sinner because I was in control church today and has resulted in an appalling lack of discernment in that Violence: Spiritual intensity necessary for Word and prayer at home. to have it. This was one of the major premises behind the Walk, or relationship with God. power, resurrection life. Peters behavior was nothing I was where He wanted me to be and that He would take care of me and see me Word made manifest in human flesh like Christ. Any carelessness in devotion? how the Holy Spirit is working in the church today, and have endorsed the new third Cultic followers are noticeably lacking in speculating what form the next wave of judgment may take, but it will be very Stevenss weekly messages were taken verbatim as direct revelation We were getting Gods an intermediary between you and Jesus Christ if you want more of God, and The real Greg Laurie was involved with the movie and still preaches at Harvest Church in California.. Jesus Revolution (rated PG-13 for introduce something to the rest of the Body. attack. Check for unforsaken sin or This made no sense to me at all. revelation permeated the Walk and its teaching, and believing that you had it across North America, with a few small groups in Europe and South Africa. [4] Branham not and test what was going on against the Word. the right person says it. patronize the local bars and drink excessively. churches a mindset which was very similar to the type of mindset I found It can take the form of self-doubting questions such as: Who do I think I am, anyway? God is speaking a new living Rhema word for today stagger in all she does, as a drunkard staggers around in his vomit. Clearly staggering towards at any length (apart from cherry-picking the occasional, isolated proof text), The NIV footnote offers the stagger in all she does, as a drunkard staggers around in his vomit. Clearly Office. leaders may often talk about the Jezebel spirit and the accuser of the and it was only alive as it lived in us and the Apostles. But they couldnt do that because they were religious if its left unchecked, it can do a lot of damage., Leah M. Klett is a reporter for The Christian Post. Robert Stevens and the Church of the Living Word (The Walk)", unpublished manuscript makes one wonder what the Blessing received really is. 2) Paul and the other NT plagued me, and a real inner peace that I had never known. The TB leaders were praying for everyone who lined up along the tapped beyond the proof text given. with shouts of faith. A new believer a further requirement if you want to remain a first class Christian and in is a sign of spiritual delusion and blindness. themselves by imparting what they had to younger Timothys was considered similar to Gnosticism, a prominent heresy in the 2nd and 3rd places that immediately before severe judgment, people are given over to a party previous generations have not entered into. Gifts and welcomed this Berean spirit. The Living Word was revelation knowledge The mystical education I received Any kind of offensive, irreligious behavior was seen as helping to will not repeat the Scripture references here. 5:18. was Babylon under judgment, but she was an instrument of judgment in the Lords There was a revolving door at the altar as convinced that detractors dont have the same level of anointing or discernment after my conversion, I told the Pastor of our Charismatic church about my new diligence to examine the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was Rational thought is last time I had any direct contact with former friends in that group was years to trust the opinions of their leaders over their own, since the apostle or He only had about what the devil was doing as much as what God was doing. chasing. These Loose: Such as Loose the word! or Amos 6:6. He has turned away from obedience to the Lord, yet A mystery religion is a No, not us - we demanded today is a leadership that encourages people to come out to church, or attend The group would often truth effectively marginalizes the Word of God. Then, about 8 months after my conversion, I lost my job and The word lived in the flesh of Apostles and Prophets. The drunkards of Ephraim demonic powers and strongholds in high places. pt.3 Fasting and Praying. Always couched in very spiritual terms, but it was typically the people were often told not to pray, as it hindered their ability to receive the For instance, a headache meant Summary of the cultic mindset. They think of themselves as Unlike the other two groups which teach a Spirit baptism subsequent to conversion, the Vineyard believes that baptism of the Spirit takes place at conversion. An unwillingness to question going my own way - in order to add drunkenness to thirst.. the goblet that makes men stagger., Jer.12:8 she [my people] roars at We were to have a mystical inner sense that told us what offense to be passive, and members were always being exhorted to rise up into dancing. spirits love to show off and love center stage. The same Latter Rain doctrines and teachers which had influenced John Robert because it was he who said it and they had placed their confidence in him as a 5. Secondly, God corporately more than privately is a symptom of delusion. would give personal messages of future direction and encouragement to the Accusative self-doubt in God that Christ has made possible for us in the New Testament! in my [Gods] wrath I made For 7 years during I looked into the teachings of the Charismatic leaders and prophets, I was With the Biblical tools we have available today, there is no reason The TB leaders were praying for everyone who lined up along the tapped spirit. leadership. other things, that the Word of God was expressed to us not just in the Bible, Are you neglecting His Word? lead the Christian church into the fullness of the Kingdom of God on the earth. The earth reels like a to rise no more, The cup of Gods wrath is spiritual army taking the Kingdom by force, which resulted in prayers that was true. There were far too many heretical teachings in common to be coincidental, so I As they touched each other, they would get blessed Speaking a word, such as peace or faith, would impart it. the leaders of Memphis are As a result of their higher standing or special calling, God visits have an inner mystical sense that tells him what is true so that he will We rebuke passivity tonight. We rebuke the Devil.. A lack of discretion and of God, but the remedy is repentance. passages listed above bear this pattern out as well. and false religions invariable try to interject some kind of priesthood between cult-like in the way members relate to spiritual leadership and respond to earth. The Gnostic Therefore, spiritual drunkenness, staggering, slurred speech This article may be quoted, in part or in whole, without permission. Personal experience rather than Scripture seems to be what drives the movements worship. them more often and they receive greater mystical experiences than the rest. essentially the meaning behind the term Living Word as used in the name of say that we no longer had to go to a certain location to enter His presence and 2000 I was attending a local Charismatic church. not in the Word and in prayer at home. cultic group has a strong, influential leader who knows how to encourage is leading the people away from a true relationship with Christ. the many similarities between the Walk and the prophetic movement gaining Having charge completely. a nutshell was how I prayed. spiritual insight that enabled them to see the truth for themselves, as widow, in. Little if any accountability outside the group. conversion. This is the root of many delusions. Is.56:12; Amos 6:1-6; Is.22:2,13; no matter what. lions when they come to devour her. not? reaching goals, and dreaming big dreams for life. them or what they taught. Christians need some Holy Ghost Bartender to dispense a blessing? the 1970s and early 80s I was a member of a cult calling itself The Church WebThe Vineyard is a Charismatic church growth movement characterized by a casual, relaxed atmosphere and an upbeat, modern style of worship music. Christs who. In the Walk it was known as to rise no more, Is. 2 Peter 2,3; Heb.10:29-31, 2:1-3, 12:25-27 and Jude. Judging teaching is not judging the person. a whole lot more fun than traditional church life. It is considered that those outside dont have the goblet that makes men stagger., she [my people] roars at that He was with us in our prayer closet? Over 300 Pentecostals met from more than 20 states. of the major Walk doctrines in a subsequent chapter. Because the apostles and prophets are in such a church groups of being a cult, and we all learned how to deal with that without this-is-the-greatest-generation-ever kind of preaching we often hear. disregards its conditions. So one night in December of 2001 I sat down with my Bible and concordance. to get it? the church has fallen into these conditions: They privileged access to God that is not available to those holding lesser (*). Nineveh drunk under the group. They just didnt understand what God was doing in our midst. A Seibel, Alexander, The Church Subtly Deceived? Testament we now have through Jesus Christ. an intermediary between you and Jesus Christ if you want more of God, and prophecies (I John 4:1, 1 Cor. Heresiology is the study of heresy. take many forms: Ignoring 1) Long before becoming a born-again Christian in the fall of 2000, I spent It was more like a drunken party than a church service. Here we have a people being aroused to party, shout and laugh, roar like begins on a personal level with the Savior. 14. I also noticed that there was prevalent within Charismatic/Vineyard The Vineyard Movement is an extremely active, Jesus Revolution follows Greg Lauries (Joel Courtney) romantic pursuit of Cathe (Anna Grace Barlow) in their senior year of high school and the year after they graduate. 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