Trying to make it seem like everything on the Internet is fake news and the only ones you can trust are the major news stations. Change), You are commenting using your Facebook account. Same ash been mentioned in Morals and Dogma: LUCIFER, the Light-bearer! The 500 year Great Lie can easily be understood in that the Vatican, the Royal Society of London and Nazi German run NASA have controlled all information from space about our place in the Universe and all stories related up until this very day. It wasnt until 1822, the Congregation of the Holy Office removed the prohibition on the publication of books treating of the earths motion in accordance with modern astronomy and Pope Pius VII ratified the decision: The most excellent [cardinals] have decreed that there must be no denial, by the present or by future Masters of the Sacred Apostolic Palace, of permission to print and to publish works which treat of the mobility of the earth and of the immobility of the sun, according to the common opinion of modern astronomers, as long as there are no other contrary indications, on the basis of the decrees of the Sacred Congregation of the Index of 1757 and of this Supreme [Holy Office] of 1820; and that those who would show themselves to be reluctant or would disobey, should be forced under punishments at the choice of [this] Sacred Congregation, with derogation of [their] claimed privileges, where necessary. Due observatories prolonged struggle to obtain a new permit, and the rise in support from governmental groups, environmental groups, and the Apache people themselves this may be one struggle for sacred land that is not lost. Debra Krol reports on Indigenous communities at the confluence of climate, culture and commerce in Arizona and the Intermountain West. of course you do not address the fact that the Vatican is the greatest and longest owners of large scale telescopes, had a Jesuit priest advising Einstein and that Copernicus book that allegedly discredited the Vatican, was dedicated to the Pope. What if we showed you, however, that there is no Biblical Character by the name of Lucifer; and the enemy, that is hasatan, is never, at any point in the Bible, referred to by name? Welcome to Mount Graham International Observatory. In 1852, the U.S. and "the Apache Nation of Indians" signed the Treaty of Santa Fe, said John Welch, a professor at Simon Fraser University and head of landscape and site protection programs at Archaeology Southwest. In addition the director of the Vatican Observatory claimed he was unable to find any authentic Apache who believed the mountain to be sacred, and who could prove the history of the mountains sacredness in any other form than orally. Sonoita. Now do you see why the Pope who has been caught worshiping Satan has a telescope named "Lucifer" pointing towards that Nebula? News accounts at the time reported that Apache tribal leaders said they were given insufficient notification of the project. Showing this error, however, reveals the fallible nature of many of these self-proclaimed Messiahs and Priests and sends a humbling blow to the heart of their followers. [] sacred sites (in the U.S.) have been used for telescopes and observatories, one of which is Mount Graham (guaranteed not the Apache name for that peak: actually it is called Dzil ncha si []. Graham, critics wonder are the 'evil ones' planning a staged end times scenario The University of Arizona, together with the Vatican and Jesuit Order, announced Following the unification of Italy in 1870, the pontifical observatories became state property. Web. "This is a story of light pollution and how it persecutes poor astronomers." In the 1930s, Pope Pius XI relocated the Observatory to . Despite all the NTs reference to hasatan, there is never a quote from Isa 14 to substantiate their position on Satan. Placing unauthorized or unwelcomed whatever on Indian sacred ground, like this telescope, or even taking any sort of sacred symbols, down to the rocks and dirt, without permission or a blessing to do so, could be a nightmare, a real life story for a Dan Brown novel and may add to the growing issues facing the Catholic Church. Device and its purpose, read my original article below, originally posted on June 20, 2016. Change), You are commenting using your Twitter account. The Vatican Observatory Research Group operates a telescope in Arizona called the Vatican Advanced Technology Telescope. The means through which they went about acquiring sacred Indian burial land is also another dark stain on the dark agenda of the Roman Catholics Jesuits to control all knowledge (and propaganda) about space. (Mount Graham, seen from U.S. 191, south of Safford, Ariz. Photo by Ben Lund / CC BY-SA 2.0.) In 1984, the University of Arizona and the Vatican selected Mount Graham as a site for a complex of 18 telescopes. <, Brandt, Elizabeth. Again, the creator. The National Optical Astronomy Observatories rejected Mount Graham years ago. (Though printed in 1450s in Germany, the Gutenberg Bible was written in Latin. Mount Graham is known to the San Carlos Apache as Dzil ncha si an. "House Votes to Sell Apache Land to Foreign Corporation, Tribe Is . This mountain is home to a large diversity of animals that have come up from the heat of Mexico and down from the northern mountains of the Pinaleo mountain range. We serve this community, operating and maintaining facilities at the remote observing site . And they are nothing but propaganda for the state. Although this statement may be true, the San Carlos Apache are not alone in their fight to protect their sacred land. But because the mountain was taken away from tribal control, Apache people over the past 150 years have not always been able to find that peace or even pray in their sacred land. What one may notice is that many groups who, associate divinity/infallibility with their leaders, and/or the KJV (and any other Text which falsely translates haylel as Lucifer), will be extremely reluctant to accept this simple error, and will become immediately defensive of their congregation and this tradition. how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! BTW, I am still waiting for you to point me to that curved water. Construction of an astronomical observatory threatens the integrity of Mount Graham, Ariz., sacred to the San Carlos and White Mountain Apache. [] Vue Intrieure du Telescope du Vatican L.U.C.I.F.E.R.. Mount Graham is one of the four sacred mountains of the Apache people. A spinning ball of water is magic. As of 1965 the Mount Graham Red Squirrel was believed to have been extinct. Then stupidity must be on the rise since more and more people are discovering the globe theory a massive lie. Even with the claimed ownership of the land and the relocation of many Apache indians, the sacred mountain remained protected by the public park service. Back in 2010, the University of Arizona, . "When the white people, the non-Indians, invaded, they assumed the 'moral authority' versus the 'treacherous savage Apaches,'" Riley said. A key to understanding how long the myth of a global heliocentric, agnostic, universe has been perpetuated on all is to understand how long and deep the Vatican has been involved with observing the heavens all the way back to Copernicus, (who himself became a catholic priest in the last years of his life and studied cannon law). I KNOW that. The planned Vatican telescope was part of an ambitious $200 million proposal from the University of Arizona to create Mount Graham International Observatory with 13 telescopes located on. Despite this proliferation, printing centres soon emerged; thus, one third of the Italian printers published in. The Vaticans latest .The L.U.C.I.F.E.R. by Greg Szymanski, JD, ArcticBeacon.com, April 23, 2010 Published here: Thursday, April 29, 2010 @ 5:10 AM University of Arizona, Vatican and Jesuits Name New Telescope 'Lucifer' Housed at Mt. Graham was not sacred because it lacked religious shrines. These two tribes were the San Carlos Apache and the White Mountain tribe. (RNS/Alejandra Molina) The Apache believe Oak Flat is a "blessed place" where Ga'an guardians or. May whoever searches here night and day the far reaches of space use it joyfully with the help of God. OAK . Mount Graham was one of the first parcels to be placed in the public domain. DziNchaaSi An, or Big Seated Mountain in Apache, is shown on most maps as Mount Graham. The fact that this is a sacred place for the Apache was not taken into consideration. LBTO headquarters is located on the Tucson campus of the University of Arizona. #20 Why Is the Vatican the Largest and Longest Owners of Telescope Observatories, Including the Newest NamedL.U.C.I.F.E.R.? On this mountain is a great life-giving force. Many of us came to accept the idea that Lucifer was hasatan (satan) long before ever reading the one verse in Isa 14:12, the only place in the Bible which mentions Lucifer. bears the Light, and with its Research results are published in international journals. And yes, its named for the Devil, whose name itself means morning star [and which] happens to be right next to the Vatican Observatory on Mt. graham observatory observatory telescope vatican. Encircled by a 2-mile border with Italy, Vatican City is an independent city-state that covers just over 100 acres . 91-1350 PHXM WPC, April 6, 1992.). Heres a simpler question. Both observing time and responsibility for VATT are shared with the University of Arizona on a 75% VORG, 25 % Arizona basis. The theory that the character Lucifer is Hasatan has been a popular one in Christianity dating as far back as the 4th century. Write to the following universities to urge them not to participate in the UA telescope project. Nor does the NT, in all its references, ever cite Isa 14 as the basis for the hasatans fall. Prior to the construction of the Vatican Observatory, Mount Graham was one of the last untouched monuments that embodied sacred energy for the San Carlos Apache. Whether they directly own it or not. As a Mason, it never fails to tickle me when I read the strange ideas that some people have of the fraternity. The observatory ended up in court and the opponents lost. Show Dangerous World Podcast, Ep 345. In southern Arizona, the proposed site of a new mine is pitting the mining company, Resolution Cooper, against the San Carlos Apache people. Photo by David Harvey / National Science Foundation Graham in southeastern Arizona. Posted By: Steve Allen January 14, 2016. The spiritual value of Mount Graham to the Apache was not considered. Even in Freemasonry when you reach high degree they say that most been taught its to be bad, instead of good. Yet in response to the ASC's claims of sacred land, Father George Coyne (a Jesuit astronomer who was the director of the Vatican Observatory) wrote, "We are not convinced by any of the arguments thus far presented that Mt. ), In Italy, a center of early printing, print shops had been established in 77 cities and towns by 1500. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. When readingAnd the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters; And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter. (Revelation 8:10,11-King James Bible) I was interested in the Wormwood star. And yes, its named for the Devil, whose name itself means morning star [and which] happens to be right next to the Vatican Observatory on Mt. The fact that this is a sacred place for the Apache was not taken into consideration. I will just say the path of the moon and the path of the sun were established before humanity and like a train can only go where there is a track. Bigelow and Lemmon, High Elevation Antarctic Terahertz Telescope, Telescopes Used Primarily for Public Viewing, Raymond E. White, Jr. 21" Telescope on Campus, Other Talks for the Professional Community. Lucifer is part of the Large Binocular Telescope, which happens to be right next to the Vatican Observatory on Mt. receive notifications of new posts by email. The Arizona Republic (Phoenix, Arizona) reports that the Jesuit Father Charles W. Polzer calls opposition to the construction of the telescope complex on top of Mount Graham part of a Jewish conspiracy and comes from the Jewish lawyers of the American Civil Liberties Union who are out to undermine and destroy the Catholic Church. plus if they are only God minded why the interest in archeology and astronomy. If the spirit of these laws is enforced, it is hard to see how any more telescopes will be allowed on top of Mount Graham. The theory that the character Lucifer is Hasatan has been a popular one in Christianity dating as far back as the 4th century. These narratives have include controlled opposition stories of scientific breakthroughs by Copernicus, Newton, Kepler and Galileo who all had their findings vetted through the Royal Society of England, who validated scientific theory through the 19th century, as well as the Vatican. "There are so many commodities and useful resources in these lands. Only a few years later, scientist began to see the squirrel reappear at higher altitudes on Mount Graham. 1.) (McLeod, Corbin). Ive had my share of college indoctrination too. Lucifer is a translation, not a transliteration. If you want to learn more about the Vatican's L.U.C.I.F.E.R. Graham in Arizona, the Large Binocular Telescope Observatory (LBTO) has two identical 8.4m telescopes mounted side-by-side. Through owning all of the information coming from the heavens, along with NASA, they been able to steer and control the narratives that we all learn about what is, and has been going on in our universe. B. Fred Lawrence Whipple Observatory 670 Mount Hopkins Road Amado, Arizona 85645 Everything is staged for coming delusion. UA lawyers also argue that they are exempt from the National Historic Preservation Act (NHPA) and any other cultural or environmental law that would apply to them. (Mount Graham Red Squirrel, Mount Graham Coalition). Native American nations and tribal governments could consider a resolution opposing the UA projectssee the NCAI resolution below. The church held most knowledge in books which had laboriously been handwritten by priests until then. So what is this elusive LUCIFER Telescope? Captivating comments from Jesuit priests like Guy Consolmagnoa leading astronomer who often turns up in media as a spokesman for the Vatican who has worked at NASA and taught at Harvard and MIT and who currently splits his time between the Vatican Observatory and laboratory (Specola Vaticana) headquartered at the summer residence of the Pope in Castel Gandolfo, Italy, and Mt. It served not only home to their guardian spirits, but also is an ancient burial site. Ive been to Indian sacred grounds and experienced a few situations to influence my belief. What causes your ball earth to spin, magic? Lakota Stories (audio): Albert, Loraine + Mike Littleboy Jr. Lakota Stories (video): Mike Littleboy, Sr. Foster Care Scandal for Lakota Children: NPR Reports, Lakota Pine Ridge Reservation: A TED talk by Aaron Huey, Mount Graham Red Squirrels. Mount Graham Coalition |. VATT is part of the Mount Graham International Observatory situated on Mount Graham in southeast Arizona, and is operated by the Vatican Observatory, one of the oldest astronomical research institutions in the world, in partnership with The University of Arizona. This link is crucial to understanding how 500 years of a massive lie can be perpd through the Vatican, Freemasons and NASA. The Vatican set up one of the first observatories back in the 16th century and has continued to this day with the recent buildout of its newest observatory called LUCIFER, or LUCI, depending on what you read. And why is the Vatican interested and want to invest in something like this? Proper names are transliterated NOT translated. For a little more than four decades astronomical research was carried out, including a prominent international program to map the whole sky. However, Ohio State and Notre Dame have joined the project (selling viewing time at $30,000/night) and now the University of Minnesota and the University of Virginia are considering investing in the project. (RNS) In what they call a "holy war" to save their sacred site in Arizona known as Oak Flat, the Apache people have gathered in prayer with other Native American tribes, even those they've. From the beginning of the Vatican Observatory project to today the existence of observatory and its location on Mount Graham has been a conflict of science, religion, and ecological protection. They view the mountain as the embodiment of spiritual energy rather than as a specific place. The mountain has ancient, undisturbed burials, as well as being a source for medicinal plants and a location for ceremonies. The Sacred Sites Summit in Tucson, Arizona, will offer sessions on Native religion and spirituality, the history of colonization and capitalism . In fact, unlike many other indigenous groups who are in struggle to protect their sacred sites, the San Carlos Apache may have an advantage due to the unique ecosystem on Mount Graham. The Vatican Advanced Technology Telescope (VATT) is located on Mt. January has another delight: a long total lunar eclipse on the night of January 20-21. )), According to an online article by Lee Alen earlier this year, prior to the building the Vatican Observatory group claimed that Mount Graham could not be a sacred site due to its lack of religious shrines. The Vatican Observatory does not own each piece of equipment, nor can it give official names or nicknames to things it does not own. Reach Krolat debra.krol@azcentral.com or at 602-444-8490. I can offer a guess based on what I have observed. The Observatory is one of the oldest astronomical institutes in the world. Coincidently, the Latin word Lucifer has the meaning of morning star, and is defined as the following on the Google online dictionary: morning star: a planet (usually Venus) seen just before sunrise in the eastern sky. At the exact era that science was allegedly replacing the Vaticans teachings that the Earth was the center of the universe and solar system, the Roman Catholic church was planning to build the very first large observatories of the heavens. The Forest Service has acknowledged that the mountain is a Traditional Cultural Property to Western Apache people and has taken steps to consult with traditional Apache about the sacred nature of the mountain and how to protect it. (Source). (Source), Keepers of the Knowledge of Heliocentric Astronomy, The Vatican. Et oui, il porte le nom du diable, dont le nom en fait signifie toile du matin [et qui] se trouve tre justement ct de lObservatoire du Vatican sur le mont Graham Tucson . Graham was not sacred because it lacked religious shrines. The 1.8 meter Alice P. Lennon Telescope and its Thomas J. Bannan Astrophysics Facility, known together as the Vatican Advanced Technology Telescope (VATT), is a Gregorian telescope observing in the optical and infrared which achieved first light, the first starlight to pass through the telescope onto a detector, in 1993. As one of the Southwest's "Sky Islands," it holds biological riches. Mount Graham was the free land of the San Carlos Apache, and remained on their reservation until the United States Federal Government claimed it it 1872. The University president claimed that he was unaware that Mount Graham was sacred to the Apache and that the Apache opposed the desecration of this sacred place. In a news report for NativeAmericansNetroots.net a member of the Mount Graham Coalition, Freathersone, states. Your email address will not be published. Baboquivari Peak. It's the home of the ga'an, or Apache mountain spirits, and the source of life-giving water for at least seven streams in the area. Funding for the project was only possible with the generosity of private, philanthropic support. What is to become of these state treasures is anyone's guess. They are on a common altitude-azimuth mounting for a combined collecting area of an 11.8m telescope. Well, brace yourself, because we are going expose this myth for what it is! 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Hasatan could have been cast to earth for any sin; but neither the NT nor OT specify what that sin was. As the project went forward organizations including the Smithsonian Institute, Ohio State University, and the University of Chicago withdrew from the project in support of protecting the environment as well as the cultural and religious history of the San Carlos Apache. Indigenous worldviews, values and sacred places strengthen the earths biological and cultural diversity, in distribution: standing on sacred ground, Mount Graham threatens science without humanity. They were set in motion by a creator. splendors intolerable blinds feeble, FREIstaatliche Religionsgemeinschaft LichtlanD, LichtlanD. <p>Guess What Happens When "They're The ONLY" Game In Town? This mountain is home to a large diversity of animals that have come up from the heat of Mexico and down from the northern mountains of the Pinaleo mountain range. In this "prayer proposal" the indigenous people needed to disclose the specific time and place they planned on praying. A few things worth noting before we start: Lucifer is never directly or indirectly called Satan, nor is the word Satan ever found in Isaiah 14. Several religious orders contributed personnel and directors to the Observatory, including Barnabites, Oratorians, Augustinians, and Jesuits. Nevertheless, Congress approved the construction plan. The entire mountain and the watersheds that emanate from it should be listed as the traditional cultural property of the Apache. The land is sacred to Native Americans from the San Carlos Apache Indian Reservation and many other Arizona tribes. Father Coyne stated that to convince him that he needed to see evidence of shrines and that he would not accept Apache oral history or statements by Apache-speaking Euro-Americans anthropologists. Im taking deep breaths as I finished reading this statement. 03 Nov. 2012. 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