1:30. I recently swapped an A2 mag into a 498T and made it into one of the best bridge buckers I've heard; I … Q: I see some Gibson guitars have ’57 Classic pickups and some have Burstbuckers. I am really thinking about buying the Classic 57 and the Classic 57 Plus set for my chambered LP Studio. Classic 57' far too low output for my style. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Just sounds like a Gibson to me. Had them both Adrian. They are to my ears. Attempting to verbally describe the difference in sound which these differences give rise to is a hilarious business. Gibson Brands, Inc. respects your right to … Just a friendly reminder that political discussion, (including "offhand" and 'sideways' commenting) is. Larry Carlton chose the 57 Classics for his signature model ES-335. I know its totally personal preference and not meaning to insult anyone who likes them,but I hate the 498t.I like the 490r ,but the 498t I hate.I replaced the 498t in my lp studio with 57 classic plus and it made the guitar come to life.I replaced the 498t in my sg standard with the angus signature pickup and thats my number 1 guitar. The 490 set is okay (better with different magnets), but it's easy to find better-sounding PU's for less money. Gibson 500t vs 498t Gibson 498T vs 500T Page 2 MarshallForum . I think some of the bad rap 57 Classics get is due to the "wrong" pots being installed by Gibson back when the 57's were introduced. Gibson 57' classic Vs. 57' classic plus? So Im guessing 498 is similar to a JB? 1:30. Recorded using a Ceriatone Plexi clone into Two Notes Cab M. Slight boost from TC Spark pedal. This treatment gave the pickup slightly higher output without sacrificing its rich vintage tone, which helped overdrive tube preamps to a smooth level of saturation without becoming overpowering. Classic rock/blues rock is more my thing. and everything in between, I'm in agreement with Roger on the matter. and everything in between, I'm in agreement with Roger on the matter. They sounded quite acceptable. The 498t is vintage sounding with great gain and sustain,classic LP vibe,a ss amp may get over pushed and schrill sounding,tube amps luv the push ! Id like too try the 57 pup on neck! Gawd I hated that pickup (498). the 498 is alnico 5 or V magnet. Both cheapie import stuff. So Im guessing 498 is similar to a JB? 5 Options Dirty Fingers Pickup $154.99. the tone has an overall wider range on an sg, which is could because the 57 classic is pretty smooth, whereas the PG is raw I feel that at the prices their guitars retail for, there should be more effort put into their PU's. the 500T is ceramic. I know quite a few people that think the 490R/498T combination is Gibson's best. mdubya , Nov 11, 2009 Great pickup, the classic Gibson sound with a bit more punch, I love it! Just bought an ES-137 with the stock 490R/498T combo. Gibson 57 Classics vs. Lindy Fralin Pure PAF Vintage Series 1 Geoffrey E. Stich 4 years ago I have a newer Memphis Gibson ES345 and the current pickups are these Memphis Historic Series and they are slightly darker then expected, not bad, but I know there could be more Zing' out there. Hey there! It helps overdrive tube preamps to a smooth level of saturation without becoming overpowering. Following information taken from right to left, not being an expert, I thought I had to type in the Gibson because it was the sound I wanted. I have a Les Paul Classic Antique with the Classic 57 and 57 plus. the 500T does sound similar. How would a 490t compare to a 57 plus in the bridge in a Sg. When I bought my 2016 Gibson SG, I intentionally sought out a pickup wound like the ones in my 68 Gibson SG - around 7.7k - and that's the 490R/490T exactly. When you buy products through links across our site, we may earn an affiliate commission. What is alarming about this thread is that you apparently cannot hear the difference between a solid Epiphone guitar and a semi-hollow Gibson guitar. I recommend to lose the tone sucking capacitor. Recorded using a Ceriatone Plexi clone into Two Notes Cab M. Slight boost from TC Spark pedal. 5 Options Dirty Fingers Pickup $154.99. Wound a bit too hot for my taste, as well. Recorded using a Ceriatone Plexi clone into Two Notes Cab M. Slight boost from TC Spark pedal. By comparison the 490R/498T combination has more midrange presence, at least to my ear. Gibson 490T Vs Gibson 57 Classic Plus! Classic '57s are great pups vs Classic '57s suck . Gibson 500t vs 498t Gibson 498T vs 500T Page 2 MarshallForum . . It has the Gibson "crunchy" tone signature. As has been mentioned previously in this thread, the Classics are better defined, and not as hot. My favorite combonation is 57+ bridge and 57 neck. As has been mentioned previously in this thread, the Classics are better defined, and not as hot. Overall they are pretty close sounding, they both sound like Gibson. . Gibson '57 Classic Plus Nickel Chrome Humbucker Pickup is my favorite pickup across the board. I found the 57 classic + to be warm and thick and the burstbucker to be thinner and more aggressive. Search engine wont find "490t or 57 plus" so I apologize if its in this site somewhere. I curentyl have the stock 490t and 490r in a old faded sg. I recently scored a 2007 Gibson SG Standard. Had them both Adrian. Amazing! this was a good read, as I just switched the pups in my 1960 classic from the hot ceramics to a 498t bridge and a 57 classic plus in the neck, this is a good combo for me so far, as im still getting used to the xtra mids the 498t puts out as compared to the 500t which tended to … And now, in the 2014 models, Gibson has ’59 Classic and ’61 Classic pickups. Gibson 57 Classic Plus vs 498T Pickups ( Les Paul & SG ) Metal Demo - Duration: 1:30. Re: Gibson 57 Classic vs Duncan 59? The neck sounds great..but the bridge is lacking..it sounds thin bottom line. Took the plunge and installed 57 Classic (neck) and Classic Plus (bridge) on both of my ES-137s, replacing the stock 490R/498T combos. I have a Les Paul and Flying V with the Gibson '57 Classic and '57 Classic Plus combination. The 12 string neck on the EDS-1275 has two Classic 57's. Q: I see some Gibson guitars have ’57 Classic pickups and some have Burstbuckers. Gibson 57 Classic Pickup. My other McCarty has some boutique pickups - a Wolfetone Marshallhead set, but Gibson's Classic '57s and P90s have always been a home run to me - even against fancier brands. Took the plunge and installed 57 Classic (neck) and Classic Plus (bridge) on both of my ES-137s, replacing the stock 490R/498T combos. . I curentyl have the stock 490t and 490r in a old faded sg. If I am going with a Gibson guitar, with humbuckers, I am going with the '57 Classic Plus in the bridge and regular '57 Classic in the neck. And now, in the 2014 models, Gibson has ’59 Classic and ’61 Classic pickups. The 57 Classic pickup is very similar to the original PAF specs, however, the coils are evenly wound to give them a rich, balanced tonal output that the original winding machines could not achieve. Search engine wont find "490t or 57 plus" so I apologize if its in this site somewhere. Classic 57+ has more mids with good string definition. Well the classic not only sounds 10 times better, crisper, great note articulation not muddy at all but the Plus has some issues. Classic 57' far too low output for my style. I could say they are thus extremely versatile, but I can't be sure that's the case. the 500T is ceramic. I have a 1994 L5CES with Classic '57s and I find them to be wonderful! It's true the 490 series sounds more "modern" but the difference in the mids and highs also make them great for note separation with more complex chording and leads. this was a good read, as I just switched the pups in my 1960 classic from the hot ceramics to a 498t bridge and a 57 classic plus in the neck, this is a good combo for me so far, as im still getting used to the xtra mids the 498t puts out as compared to the 500t which tended to … Jun 10, 2012 Welcome to r/guitar, a community devoted to the exchange of guitar related information and entertainment. Great tone, with more treble bite than the '57 Classic. Thanks for visiting. You know the difference, of course? The 490T came stock in my 1990 Gibson Les Paul Studio. The Epiphone isn't solid, it's laminate. As has been mentioned previously in this thread, the Classics are better defined, and not as hot. 4 Options 498T "Hot Alnico" Bridge Pickup $134.99. I actually wired my SG up with the 57plus in the neck and the 57 classic in the bridge.....made it a total beast for metal n stuff Aaron Olsen, Dec 17, ... 498T is 14k 57+ is 8.5k 57 is 7k I … They are the same pickup with the only difference being the 500T having ceramic magnets and the 498T have Alnico 5's. I tried a traditional plus and a traditional pro to get an idea in the difference in tone between the 57 classic + (trad plus) and the Burstbucker 3 (trad pro). I own an LP with modern classics and I can't imagine a better "all-around" rock pickups than my 498T. Peter Varrica 51,293 views. They sound great but so different in different guitars. but, more clarity and greater definition than the SD '59s I have in one of my Super Eagles. I find the 57s give more of a classic sound. I could hear a big difference when I went from ceramics to al5 in my strat. Is this going to be a huge improvement in tone, especially for more jazz playing? [GEAR]: Gibson 498T vs Classic 57 + bridge pickups I'm rolling through a couple of Gibson pickups and did a quick comparison video that might help someone considering swapping. but, more clarity and greater definition than the SD '59s I have in one of my Super Eagles. I've been toying with the idea of getting an ES-137 Classic and replacing PUPS with Seth Lover's. My Lp still has the 498t and whatever the other is.....dont really like em to be honest.....the bridge just isnt ballsy enough....its hot yes but not ballsy if you know what I mean.....hard to squeeze good definition from it. If you offered me a pair of either I would take the '57's (classic neck, classic plus bridge) only through what I have read is a vintage lower output type PAF. The Plus is definitely hotter, and slightly less output than the 498T. Much more smoother and stratty overall. Re: Gibson 57 Classic Plus vs. SD Pearly Gates i think the 57 classic works better in a guitar like an sg that has a little more high end and a little more bottom end then say a les paul. Toxicpizza72 Senior Member. Gibson 57 Classic Left: measured in a Gibson Les Paul Less+ 2015 (Neck: 57 Classic, Bridge: 57 Plus, no covers) Right: measured in a Gibson Les Paul Classic 2014 (57 Classic zebra, no covers) 57 Classic - Coil Split: measured in a Gibson Les… The magnet itself is an Alnico 5, which is the same only a little stronger than the Alnico II featured in the ’57 Classic; The Difference: In Words. Examples of 1996 and 1997 Les Paul Classic Premium Plus models from the Custom Shop include a flametop in Royal Blue with exposed zebra ’57 Classics, a flametop in Purple with covered ’57 Classics, and two highly quilted tops models with exposed zebra ’57 Classics (emerald green and ruby red). Attempting to verbally describe the difference in sound which these differences give rise to is a hilarious business. Sorry for the interruption. My SG came with 490's and I replaced the bridge with a 498. I had a studio with the 490 and 498 in it. The 57 Classic pickup is very similar to the original PAF specs, however, the coils are evenly wound to give them a rich, balanced tonal output that the original winding machines could not achieve. The best place to start if you're new is right below in our "Rules" section. Are there differences? I'd like to get some of your thoughts on the stock 490R/498T pups vs. '57 Classics. Joined Jan 20, 2015 Messages 329 Reaction score 409. With its "Patent Applied For" decal on the faceplate, the '57 Classic Plus is a near perfect re-creation of a late 1950s humbucker that was slightly overwound, delivering a hotter output along with rich, vintage tone when used in the bridge position. . I've had them in SGs in the past (that's the best pup for SGs I swear) and now I've got a pair in a PRS McCarty that's voiced a touch on the bright side. I use the Gibson 57 classic plus in my 95' Gibson Les Paul Classic. Feb 24, 2009 #1. telbert twang Tele-Holic. I've owned a Gibson Les Paul Standard in the past with the 490/498 combo and I hated those pickups with a passion. Peter Varrica 51,293 views. Derek Truck chose the 57 Classics for his signature model SG. I suppose this is a roundabout way of saying that the 490R/498T combo isn't as awful as I was expecting. Oh here there! Re: Les Pauls: 498T vs '57 Classic I played both side to side in an SG Standard and '61 Reissue. There's enough bite to crunch under overdrive, but it's clean enough to do jazzy runs on (the neck is killer for jazz). 1 Options ... 1 Options Sign Up for Gibson News & Special Offers. 7.5kohms for the neck and 8.2 to maximum 8.5 kohms for the bridge pickup. 498T is more bassy, more gain output. It's the Young Gun versus The Legend! As has been mentioned previously in this thread, the Classics are better defined, and not as hot. I actually like the tone of the Plus better than the 498T (more PAF sounding to me with less mids). Just sounds like a Gibson to me. it actualy to my ears (the ones i use anyway) sound like a 57 on steroids whereas the 498 sounds awesome but has a loose kaboose. I've tried a lot of pickups in my LP and the Classic 57+ is my favorite. So I called Gibson. Gibson Pickup comparison 490's vs. 57' Classics. By comparison the 490R/498T combination has more midrange presence, at least to my ear. '57 Classic Plus Pickup $175.99. I'm rolling through a couple of Gibson pickups and did a quick comparison video that might help someone considering swapping. The '57 Classic Plus allows users to overdrive tube preamps without becoming overly strident. 57s are darker & lower output pickups than modern classics. Typical Gibson 57 Classic Humbucker resonance frequency: ca. Joined Sep 6, 2011 Messages 998 Reaction score 1,180. Posts: 762. I Didnt like the bridge 498t finding the clean sounds no where near as good as the 57+ and overdrive too mid bias for my tastes. Examples of 1996 and 1997 Les Paul Classic Premium Plus models from the Custom Shop include a flametop in Royal Blue with exposed zebra ’57 Classics, a flametop in Purple with covered ’57 Classics, and two highly quilted tops models with exposed zebra ’57 Classics (emerald green and ruby red). The Classic '57s have a more balanced, sweeter tone to my ears. I prefer it much more to the Gibson 498T which I got in order to have a little more output than I would on a Gibson 57 Classic. My original 58 and 60 Les Paul standards had relatively weak PAFs, but they sounded great and were sustaining for days. Thanks! Or should I be alarmed? Having said that I think the 498t in a Les Paul is much better suited than a 498t in an SG. Took the plunge and installed 57 Classic (neck) and Classic Plus (bridge) on both of my ES-137s, replacing the stock 490R/498T combos. Jun 18, 2015 #1 Curious about the tonal differences between these 2 pickups. 57 Classic Plus is a nice bridge pickup, its an overwound classic PAF tone, but I think is not very hot to balance with 490R in neck. gibson ´57 classic and ´57 classic plus specs? I just put a some 57 classics in my guitar, the classic plus in the bridge and regular 57 at the neck. Are there differences? I'm baffled at all the guitar models Gibson puts '57's and 498T/490R's in. Burstbucker Pro is a bit more bright, but better definition for modern players. Took the plunge and installed 57 Classic (neck) and Classic Plus (bridge) on both of my ES-137s, replacing the stock 490R/498T combos. If you have guitar related questions, use the "Search" field or ask the community. Oddly enough, to me, the Classic '57s are a favorite. Gibson Brands, Inc. respects your right to … The Burstbucker Pros are AlNiCo V mags = a little brighter. By comparison the 490R/498T combination has more midrange presence, at least to my ear. 1 Options '57 Classic with 4-Conductor Wiring Pickup $199.99. They were hot/muddy and most importantly, dull sounding pickups that didn't do a single thing for that axe. You can get them reasonably priced used on eBay or a new set for around 180 bucks. I use my bridge PU way more than the neck PU, and the '57 Classic Plus is my favorite. I have tried a Classic 57, 57+, and 498t in a Hamer Scarab I own (all mahogany, set neck, rosewood, 500k pots). Thread starter Lepard; Start date Jun 18, 2015; L. Lepard Senior Member. Can become muddy easily. '57 Classic Plus Pickup $175.99. A Gibson '57 Classic plus, with a sticker that says 'neck position.' Then: 490 + R or 498T Classic 57 and Classic 57 +? By comparison the 490R/498T combination has more midrange presence, at least to my ear. Re: Gibson 57 Classic and Classic Plus I've only played 57 classics in one Les Paul, but I would have to guess the APH-2 slash set is probably the closest Duncan pickup. Discussion in 'Guitars' started by Adrian R, Aug 22, 2014. Took the plunge and installed 57 Classic (neck) and Classic Plus (bridge) on both of my ES-137s, replacing the stock 490R/498T combos. Lost all my crunch and sizzle and was just left with a dead sounding pickup with too much upper mid honk and absolutely no mojo of any kind. 1 Options '57 Classic with 4-Conductor Wiring Pickup $199.99. The Gibson Classic 57+ has just the right abount of output to push your wood and allow articulation. 2,1 kHz (neck). Press J to jump to the feed. Gibson 57 Classics vs. Lindy Fralin Pure PAF Vintage Series 1 Geoffrey E. Stich 4 years ago I have a newer Memphis Gibson ES345 and the current pickups are these Memphis Historic Series and they are slightly darker then expected, not bad, but I know there could be more Zing' out there. I have an Epiphone LP with a 57 Classic and a Classic Plus. They're a bit hotter than my SD Seths . The same settings on tube amp and 498t dont work for 490r ,it goes deep and too distorted and mushy ! 2-conductor wiring. I took the 490r and the 498t out of my LP and put in the 57 and 57+ because I thought they were better matched. Gibson 57 Classic Plus vs 498T Pickups ( Les Paul & SG ) Metal Demo - Duration: 1:30. I have this set up in a LP Standard 2001---best guitar made in years but that is another review. 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